 Hello, good evening. Hi. Iii you can recognize my voice. I I am Xi jin. Good evening. Okay. This is for our follow up for interview. Okay, so I hope you still remember something about our research aha. I I I do remember. Okay, so how do you feel about the meal reusable cup in your home? My home yeah? I think it's a little too small for my home, so I only use it for candy. Candy. You already feel some new candies in it. That's great. May I ask, where did you store your meal up up? In the cupboard? 
Does it suitable for your a suit for your cupboard? Yes. Yes yeah because it's so little. Okay. How do you evaluate the cop in comparison to your other food containers at home? Besides of the size MHM? It's okay. Yeah, it's nice that I I can really close it, not only press it, but turn the how do you go to the textual the I can close it by turning the lead, the lead or the cover yeah yeah, but it's a pity. It's too small for here. 
I know that my boys eat a lot, okay. Yeah, so some people don't really like the coconut cookies, but luckily you like it. Can I ask, did you clean it before you refuse the new candies in it? No, because the candy was in paper, okay? Yeah and. 
So still, there are some package. Iii think the first time candy, I don't even remember, but I made it i made a picture, okay? So perhaps you can share with, but now there is can be in it with a paper around right? In paper. Little two fish. Maybe it is Dutch candy. The yeah, it's so few is the chocolate around it. Okay, so good off. Okay, in the name. Maybe next time I can search it in the supermarket. Okay? If that is possible, would you like to shop again using the system in the future? Uh uh? I don't know what you. I because now we are just finished the research. But if that is possible in the real life, would you like to shop again use the system if there is a shopper in the neighborhood? 
I would certainly do that because like I told you, I was just interested in Peter port yeah, but I found the material too heavy. Yeah. This material is very light. Then you also mentioned the size of the cop is very small, so maybe just for the cookies. And because that is how we do the research for it, offer the small ones I know I know yeah. Could you imagine if you had brought back several cups, maybe the different size of the cops with other products, then you will have several reusable cups at home. 
And how would you prepare for your next shopping with the system? If you have a lot of reusable cups with different size, after you may be finished the product inside, how would you prepare for your next shopping? Just take it with me. I feel it again in the show. So i, I wouldn't bring it back to the shop for cleaning in the shop when I'm buying the same stuff, it's okay with me. I don't have to clean it every time. Yeah. But how would you consider how many cops you need before you go to the supermarket? That depends on what I can buy. I don't know what kind of products will be in the the supermarket or in the shop. So when there are five things that we eat, MHM. I can take five containers, but if there's only one or two things, now then i'll take two. 
Okay, so it depends on what kinds of foods I can buy in the show. Pay and you can even take the five containers. With you to the supermarket. I have a bike with the bags on my bike like real Dutch room. Yeah. Me too. I I also do that very good, very integrated. Thank you. Okay. The so you said that for your second shopping, you would prefer to refuse the. The same cops rather than return it. Yeah, when I can use my own cup, I yeah, so you will also try to bring yourself containers with you to fill the product. 
Do you feel your personal actions in using this kind of system will have the environmental benefits? I hope so. I I hope that the benefit is in not using all kinds of plastics. And I have to throw away. And I also think that when I don't clean them in between, because I don't think it's necessary, it will also reduce water, spilling, et cetera. How do you distinguish your contribute to the environment? Or a there is an environmental benefits? If you reuse the the packaging with the system, I will certainly have blessed garbage. 
Yeah, that's interesting. So you will charge this by the reduction of the plastic packaging at home. That's a good insight. Yeah. After you have used the system and cop in the laboratory and also at home, do you feel different towards buying product in single use packaging when you go to the supermarket after this research? Yes, II think I just say that it's a pity that the system isn't yet in the shops here. Not yet in the shops to speak. Yeah, maybe in the near future industry. When there is a system in another country or in another city that is better for the environment, I would like it to be endowed also. Yeah. 
Then as my last question is, could you imagine this will become our main shopping approach for groceries, especially for the packaged food on the shelf in the future. Could you imagine that it will be our main shopping approach? I don't think that everybody will use this yeah, because there are still a lot of people who think all the environment talks are bullshit. They don't care. Yeah, that's true. So they don't mind to use these cups um. But the people who do mind about the environment, I think they will like to use it. Yeah. Do you feel because uh? Why I ask you the question about your personal actions? It's because we have the feeling. 
Now in the system, there are very nice or limited communication about the sustainability. So for the consumers, perhaps they are not sure about how many they can contribute to the environment, or how the individual actions can help for the environment. We are trying every everything else. Yeah. So maybe not even if it's little effort. Yeah. Yeah, but perhaps a a better communication need to be added on the system. So people will have more strong feeling about their contribute. And maybe there should be some communication about the production of the cups, and the production of the machine where we can get the food from MHM, because like with the windmills, some people say, I like to use energy from a windmill, but another person can say, do you know what it costs to build a windmill, what kind of material, and et cetera? 
So I think when you use plastic containers, it's useful to communicate about it, all kinds of plastic. And how many times you can use it, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, to convince people is really better. Yeah. No, I have the feeling. It's just to encourage people to do that, but maybe people they are not really recognize what kind of contribution they will have, so they don't have the strong motivation to be in involved or engaged. Yeah. But a in a little in many cities, you have to pay for your garbage by weight of the garbage. 
So when people have the experience to have less garbage by using these kinds of containers, they have to benefit themselves from less costs. So that can also be a motive to use it. Because the Dutch are really fond of earning money. And that's already, I think, yeah yeah. But that's a good thing. I like. This character. We won't spill our money. That's all my questions. Thanks a lot for sharing your opening again. With me. You were success. Yes. Okay, have a good evening. Bye bye, good bye bye bye. 